In talks, Muslim militant coalition seeks independent Islamic state in southern Thailand
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Muslim militant leaders in talks with Thai authorities to end a deadly insurgency said Thursday they are seeking an independent state and are ready to negotiate a solution.
Six insurgent groups, united in a coalition called the Pattani Consultative Council, participated in three days of informal peace talks ending Thursday in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
“We want to stress that we did not drop our demand for independence. That will be the final aim for the Pattani struggle, but we are ready to sit at the negotiation table to find a solution that will give Muslims the right to determine their own future” in the predominantly Buddhist country, council representative Abu Hafez Al-Hakim told a news conference.
He said the Pattani people will ultimately decide whether the solution will be an independent state or autonomy under the Thai government for the three southernmost provinces. More than 5,000 people have been killed in the insurgency since 2004.
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Well you get the meaning. Islam, Religion of Peace
Some of us must have seen Richard Attenborough’s film on the life of Gandhi which was first screened in 1982. Though many critics say that the film was unfair to Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Subhas Chandra Bose; but taken as a whole, the film was a faithful portrait of Gandhi.
For the ‘Gandhians’ or ‘Gandhibadis’ (devoted followers of Gandhi), Gandhi was the apostle of nonviolence, the ultimate realty, another name of truth and a divine ‘avatar’ or incarnation. Gandhi neither did claim to be a prophet nor even a philosopher.
He was not even interested to leave a sect behind him after his death. For Gandhi, ‘Ahimsa’ (non-violence) was not a simple abstention from violence, but it had much higher, infinitely higher meaning. It is the most powerful tool for positive social change.Gandhi was the strongest symbol of non-violence in the 20th century India.
According to him, someone who is following the doctrine of nonviolence cannot harbor uncharitable thought, even in connection with those who consider his enemies. Such a man cannot have an enemy. Once this is achieved with ultimate sacrifice and self-suffering; his self-purification starts. Soon he finds himself in the ultimate stage of spirituality where he can conquer the whole world.
Gandhi advised us that we should deliver our lives and honor into the hands of our enemies who want to harm us. This submission, according to Gandhi, requires far greater courage than delivering of blows to the enemy.However there are many critics who have now appeared with a rather different view of Gandhi.
With solid arguments and a revisionist history, they depict Gandhi as a charlatan. They see Gandhi as a crafty politician, a ruthless manipulator posing as a religious leader and presenting a facade of spirituality. Some critics see Gandhi as incredibly dangerous and utterly stupid person.
Endless tomes have been written about the islamic ideology. Socalled scholars bitterly dispute minute details due to the problem of the sunna being replete with badly interpreted/translated verses which in turn are based on a scripture lacking proper identification of vowels. Even if one would be capable of getting the ‘right’ word one still has to cope with the origins of said scriptures, being penned down from oral repetition sang around desert campfires during a long period where it was sculpted by various other sources such as the Torah/old testament, and the Christian interpretation thereof.
So delving into that morass of word-feud is pretty pointless. So how does one properly interpret this ideology? Well obviously by the deeds performed in the name of it.
A good example is Turkey which after Ataturk became a relatively modern secular version of it. It didn’t last. Today Turkey is well under way to becoming the same kind of totally failed nations so common when fallen under Islamic rule. The proof is in the eating of the pudding and it tastes pretty awful.
In Islam, “shirk” is an unforgivable sin, as it constitutes polytheism. The Quran strictly bans any Muslim to associate human beings with God. Ironically, “shirk” is a popular pastime among Erdogan’s devout Muslim fans. As Turkish columnist Mustafa Akyol reminded readers in a recent article, a government deputy declared in 2011 that “even touching Erdogan is a form of worship,” and in 2014 another government deputy proclaimed that Erdogan “carries all the attributes of Allah in himself.”
Turkey looks more like Putin’s Russia than any member of the European club it theoretically hopes to join.
Akyol writes that a recent book, “Recep Tayyip Erdogan: The Sun of the Age,” proudly refers to the president as “an idol for our youth,” which would sound bizarre, if not heretical, to the average Islamist. “Such views, heretical from a traditional Islamic perspective, were criticized and ridiculed by Erdogan’s opponents, but he conspicuously said nothing,” Akyol comments.
Erdogan, who has never hidden his appreciation for praise and rigid intolerance of criticism, may be happy for being portrayed as “The Sun of the Age,” or by being associated with Allah. He probably believes that he possesses near-holy qualities gifted to him by Allah for the advancement of Islam as a political ideology, both in Turkey and in the former Ottoman lands.
He may not be aware that he is merely ridiculing himself when his propaganda machinery, too, excessively pleases him with funny overdoses of praise. That would be just his problem. But then there are the casualties such as a judiciary, fully loyal to him, which carries out ugly witch-hunts against his opponents — who number in the tens of millions. Each day Turkey looks more like Putin’s Russia than any member of the European club it theoretically hopes to join.